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From ZDnet: Munich to stick with open source
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

This might be of interest to you open-source fans... http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5237356.html -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca> Dept. of Computer Science Web: http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~gedetil/ University of Manitoba Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R3T 2N2 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Re: [RndTbl] up2date and yum updates for CORE 2
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

According to Mel Seder: > I went to our site http://www.muug.mb.ca/fedora-updates.html and read it and > then downloaded the two patch files. I read about the patch command in > "Running Linux" published by O'Reilly as well as running and reading "info > patch". > > As I recall, for CORE 1 I just went in and edited sources (maybe yum.conf > also) by hand because I didn't realize that what the gobbly gook in the patch > file did or that I even needed the patch command. > > I generated a patch file to update a phone list text file just to see how patch > worked and it worked how I expected. I did not understand everything in > "Running Linux" or "info patch" but the following is what I think I should do. > > both patch files are in ~ > > I issue "su" from ~ for root access > > #patch < rhn-sources-fc2.patch > #patch < yum.conf-fc2.patch > > Am I missing something or should the above work? I would do the following: cp -p /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources.FC2 cp -p /etc/yum.conf /etc/yum.conf.FC2 patch -p0 < rhn-sources-fc2.patch patch -p0 < yum.conf-fc2.patch The first two commands will just make backup copies of the config files before you patch them. (I've gotten into the habit of saving a copy of each original configuration file before modifying it for the first time. That way, I can always go back to the original, or use "diff" to find out what has changed.) There is a patch option to save a backup of the file before patching it, but I can never remember what the option is, and it seems to behave slightly differently depending on what version of patch you have. So, I find it simpler to just make my own copies first (which I do out of habit already). Also, on some versions of patch, the backup copy is made without preserving the modification time stamp. I'm anal about these things, and I like my backups to have an accurate time stamp, which is why I always use "cp -p". > What I think I will do, just cause I'm chicken, is run the following before > the actual/live patches; > > #patch --dry-run < rhn-sources-fc2.patch > sources.dryrun > #patch --dry-run < yum.conf.fc2.patch > yum.dryrun Sure, that would be a safe way to try things out first, but of course, if you've made your backup copies, then you can be a bit more brave! :) I wasn't even aware of the --dry-run option. It appears to be in GNU patch (even older versions), but wasn't in the original patch command written by Larry Wall (better known as the author of perl), nor is it in the Solaris patch command. > I'm mostly concerned about the patch commands. Should they work or are other > parameters needed? Not sure about the patch command that comes with FC2, but in some earlier versions, you had to specify at least some options in order to use it in non-interactive mode. Otherwise, it would insist on prompting you for file names, etc. So, the "patch -p0 < patch_file" command is something I also now do out of habit. (Strictly speaking, -p0 should happen by default, i.e. it tells patch not to strip any directory prefixes from the pathnames in the patch file, in order to find the correct files to patch. But in some versions, that option also told it to pull the file names from the patch file, rather than asking for them.) -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca> Dept. of Computer Science Web: http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~gedetil/ University of Manitoba Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R3T 2N2 Fax: (204)474-7609

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up2date and yum updates for CORE 2
by Mel Seder 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

I went to our site http://www.muug.mb.ca/fedora-updates.html and read it and then downloaded the two patch files. I read about the patch command in "Running Linux" published by O'Reilly as well as running and reading "info patch". As I recall, for CORE 1 I just went in and edited sources (maybe yum.conf also) by hand because I didn't realize that what the gobbly gook in the patch file did or that I even needed the patch command. I generated a patch file to update a phone list text file just to see how patch worked and it worked how I expected. I did not understand everything in "Running Linux" or "info patch" but the following is what I think I should do. both patch files are in ~ I issue "su" from ~ for root access #patch < rhn-sources-fc2.patch #patch < yum.conf-fc2.patch Am I missing something or should the above work? What I think I will do, just cause I'm chicken, is run the following before the actual/live patches; #patch --dry-run < rhn-sources-fc2.patch > sources.dryrun #patch --dry-run < yum.conf.fc2.patch > yum.dryrun I'm mostly concerned about the patch commands. Should they work or are other parameters needed? Can anyone see any problems or make any suggestions? ===== The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. -Samuel Johnson, lexicographer (1709-1784)

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pitty the Royal Navy
by ed orphan 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

According to today's BBC ( June 10, 2004 ), the new Type 45 "stealth" destroyers, which are to "provide the future backbone of the Royal Navy" are to be "controlled by state-of-the-art computers using a Windows NT operating system." BAE Systems is to have the first one launched in September 2007. A price of $ 3.6 billion is stated, but its not made clear if that's for all 26 of them, or just one. I suspect its for just one. Either way, it's good money pissed away. Windows NT ! These things will be a menace to everyone, including their own crews.

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Fedora 2 screen blanking
by Mike Pfaiffer 09 Jun '04

09 Jun '04

Installed Fedora 2 last week. One of the things I did (after having it boot into mode 3 and going into KDE when starting X) was to disable the various (forced) power management tools and screen saver. Today I was away from my machine for a few minutes and saw a blank screen. The monitor was indicating there was no signal. Since I disabled power management in the CMOS as well, I must have missed something. After a couple of hours looking at the usual places I figure I am missing something. Any suggestions where else to look? Later Mike -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Digital Civilization magazine: http://www.digitalcivilization.ca | |Call-A.P.P.L.E. and the Digital Civilization http://www.callapple.org | | http://members.shaw.ca/pfaiffer = Mike Pfaiffer (B.A., B.Sc.) | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK ----- Version: 3.12 GCS/G/IT/PA/SS d s+:- a? C++ UL L++ W++ N++ o+ K- w(---) O+@ M++@ V PS+ PE !PGP t+ 5+ X R tv b+ DI+++ D++ G e++* h! r-- !y-- UF++ ------ END GEEK CODE BLOCK ------

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[Fwd: [Sean's Obsessions] New Comment Posted to 'Linux Unwired']
by Sean A. Walberg 05 Jun '04

05 Jun '04

One of the authors of Linux Unwired sent me this: -----Forwarded Message----- Name: Roger Weeks Just a quick note: the authors (yes I am one) have a blog at http://www.linuxunwired.com. You can find out where we are speaking, read errata and coming soon, new stuff we couldn't fit in the book. -- Sean A. Walberg <sean(a)ertw.com> http://www.ertw.com

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Linux Unwired review
by Sean A. Walberg 04 Jun '04

04 Jun '04

I put up a review of "Linux Unwired": http://ertw.com/blog/archives/linux_unwired-260504.html A hell of a book if you're looking for information on all things wireless for Linux. Sean -- Sean A. Walberg <sean(a)ertw.com> http://www.ertw.com

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MUUG Meeting, June 8, 7:30PM -- Linux in the Enterprise - Configuration and Management
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 01 Jun '04

01 Jun '04

[Posted to man.unix.general and other news groups] ------ Forwarded Article <c9j4b9$hie$1(a)canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> ------ From gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca (Gilbert E. Detillieux) The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, June 8. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: Linux in the Enterprise - Configuration and Management As Linux moves into the enterprise, configuration and management tools are needed. Sun is working on a facility called APOC (A Point of Control) that manages desktop configuration and management. This talk describes what APOC is and how it works. Willem van Schaik, SunPS engineer, will be our presenter for this topic. The group holds its general meetings at 7:30 PM on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ********************************************************************** Please note our new meeting location: The IBM offices, at 400 Ellice Ave. (between Edmonton and Kennedy). When you arrive, you will have to sign in at the reception desk, and then wait for someone to take you (in groups) to the meeting room. Please try to arrive by about 7:15 PM, so the meeting can start promptly at 7:30 PM. Don't be late, or you may not get in. Limited parking is available for free on the street, or in a lot across Ellice from IBM, for $1.00 for the evening. Indoor parking is also available nearby, at Portage Place, for $2.00 for the evening. ********************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Also note that MUUG maintains two mailing lists, called "muug-announce" and "roundtable". If you're not already on these lists, we encourage you to subscribe now: http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/ The "muug-announce" list is used for monthly meeting announcements (such as this one) as well as other important announcements of interest to MUUG members. The "rountable" list is meant to be a forum for follow-ups to topics discussed at the meetings, or for round-table-style discussion on other topics that come up between meetings. Of course, for this to be effective, we need to reach a certain critical mass. So, please subscribe, and stay involved! -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ P.O. Box 130, St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609 ------ End of Forwarded Article

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Local Linux training...
by Michael Boyd 31 May '04

31 May '04

Greetings Manitoba Unix User Group Members, The University of Winnipeg's Division of Continuing Education (DCE) is pleased to announce the offering of a Linux Boot-Camp. Courses, cost, and dates are as follows: Linux Essentials: Mon-Thu 9:00-3:30pm June 21-24, $555 Linux System Administration: Mon-Thu 9:00-3:30pm July 5-8, $555 Linux Network Administration: Mon-Thu 9:00-3:30pm July 19-22, $555 Advanced Linux Network Admin and Linux Security: Mon-Fri 9:00-3:30pm Aug 9-13, $675 Participants successfully completing the four courses will receive a University of Winnipeg Certificate of Completion. Also, participants may wish to challenging the Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) certification. Registration can take place immediately by contacting DCE. More details can be found in the attachment. For any questions or information on how to register, please contact Stevi Dram at 982-1168 or s.dram(a)uwinnipeg.ca. Michael Boyd Director Information Technology University of Winnipeg - DCE 294 William Avenue Winnipeg, MB R3B 0R1 Tel: (204) 982-1161 Fax: (204) 944-0115 Email: mi.boyd(a)uwinnipeg.ca Web: www.dce.uwinnipeg.ca

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Making Fedora Core 2 and Windows play well together
by John Lange 28 May '04

28 May '04

At the last meeting someone was having problems with Windows and Fedora. Since that time another user has relayed to me similar problems and has located this article which may be of interest: http://lwn.net/Articles/86835/ -- John Lange BigHostBox.com (204) 885 0872

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