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Re: [RndTbl] Here's the December 2013 MUUG Newsletter
by Colin Stanners 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Acclaim to the new board of directors! I didn't think it cost $500/yr of postage for the newsletter - seems high for a tech group. I don't know about others but I've been subscribed just to remind me how quaint it is to receive information on dead trees and will turn that off. Why does MUUG pay $350-$700/yr for a PO box? Does it receive anything? On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:36 PM, MUUG Newsletter Editor < newsletter(a)muug.mb.ca> wrote: > The latest installment of MUUG Lines is available. > > Please find it attached to this email. >

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Re: [RndTbl] Here's the December 2013 MUUG Newsletter
by athompso＠athompso.net 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Actually, yes, we receive a fair bit of mail. Less now, of course. Also, not all of us are quite as eager to boldly plunge into the future as you as are. I prefer to think of it as supporting Canada Post ;-). And, IIRC, some of those numbers are for two years not one. As for postage, the numbers add up... #members * 10 * (paper + ink + envelopes + folding/stuffing + postage) equals a surprisingly large number. And we've only done electronic delivery this year, so we expect that cost to go down next year. Some of us - possibly many, considering how many people haven't already opted out of the paper newsletter - prefer quite strongly to read things on dead trees... And please remember how long we've been doing this. Like UNIX itself, we don't change the way we do things just for the sake of change. (Although obviously Lennart doesn't share this philosophy... *cough* systems *cough*) -Adam On Dec 3, 2013 3:06 PM, Colin Stanners <cstanners(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Acclaim to the new board of directors! > > I didn't think it cost $500/yr of postage for the newsletter - seems high for a tech group. I don't know about others but I've been subscribed just to remind me how quaint it is to receive information on dead trees and will turn that off. > > Why does MUUG pay $350-$700/yr for a PO box? Does it receive anything? > > > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:36 PM, MUUG Newsletter Editor <newsletter(a)muug.mb.ca> wrote: >> >> The latest installment of MUUG Lines is available. >> >> Please find it attached to this email. > >

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MUUG Meeting, Dec 10, 7:30pm -- Round-table, Mingling and Munchies
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

The Manitoba UNIX User Group (MUUG) will be holding its next monthly meeting on Tuesday, December 10. The meeting topic for this month is as follows: Round-table, Mingling and Munchies As the year draws to a close, we've decided to continue our not-quite-yet-tradition of turning the December meeting into more of a social event. We'll have the usual round-table session, which can run longer than average since there's no pressure to fit the presentation in, followed by time for mingling and eating and drinking instead of the usual short coffee break. This will be a "pot-luck" event, like we've done in the past. Some food and drink will be provided by MUUG, but members are encouraged to bring food to sample. Feel free to bring your own drink, too, if you want something particular just remember, please, that we don't have a liquor license! Winnipeg Harvest Food Drive Also as in previous years, we're combining this with a food drive for Winnipeg Harvest. We'd like members to bring some non-perishable food item for donation to the food bank. They have information about what they're looking for on their website. Winnipeg Harvest has apparently been running a shortfall all year, and needs your donations! http://winnipegharvest.org/donate-food/ The group holds its general meetings at 7:30pm on the second Tuesday of every month from September to June. (There are no meetings in July and August.) Meetings are open to the general public; you don't have to be a MUUG member to attend. ***************************************************************** Please note our *NEW* meeting location for this month: Room 1L08, Lockhart Hall, University of Winnipeg, entrance on Ellice Ave. between Spence St. and Balmoral St. Parking is available on the surrounding streets and in the lots on nearby streets. Look for signage once you're at the building, or ask a security guard. ***************************************************************** For more information about MUUG, and its monthly meetings, check out their Web server: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ Help us promote this month's meeting, by putting this poster up on your workplace bulletin board or other suitable public message board: http://www.muug.mb.ca/meetings/MUUGmeeting.pdf -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)muug.mb.ca> Manitoba UNIX User Group Web: http://www.muug.mb.ca/ PO Box 130 St-Boniface Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg MB CANADA R2H 3B4 Fax: (204)474-7609

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Off-topic: cables
by Kevin McGregor 30 Nov '13

30 Nov '13

Does anyone know a local, reasonably-priced source of a N Male to RP TNC Male cable? Or should I just order it online somewhere? I know of one online source where I can get one for $10-$15+shipping, but a local source would be preferable. Kevin

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Find the CWD and environment variables for a running process...
by Sean Cody 30 Nov '13

30 Nov '13

Someone asked on #openbsd (freenode) how to get a running process' current working directory as well as it's environment variables... Interesting problem. Environment variables are easy but the current working directory of a running process requires a bit more thought. Solution (w's are for column width truncation) for PID's environment: ps -p `pgrep tmux` -wwwwwe eg: sean@_:~$sudo ps -p `pgrep irssi` -wwwwwe PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 14485 p0 S+ 4:41.35 _=/usr/local/bin/irssi LOGNAME=sean HOME=/home/sean MAIL=/var/mail/sean TMUX=/tmp/tmux-1000/default,4913,0 PATH=/home/sean/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/games:. TMUX_PANE=%0 TERM=screen SHELL=/bin/ksh USER=sean (irssi) For the working directory of the process: sudo lsof -p `pgrep irssi` awk '/cwd/{print "find "$9" -inum "$8" | head -n 1"}' | sudo sh eg. sean@_:~$sudo lsof -p `pgrep irssi` | awk '/cwd/{print "find "$9" -inum "$8" | head -n 1"}' | sudo sh /home/sean Anyways it was an interesting problem so I figured worthy to share. Unfortunately I couldn't think of a way to doing it without lsof and sticking with base install and I didn't want to mount /proc... In Linux you can get a tool called 'pwdx' but that isn't portable, also linux's procfs also includes a cwd file in each process directory. -- Sean

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New notebook from Ottawa-based Eurocom
by Adam Thompson 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Ottawa-based Eurocom has announced a new model in their Panther notebook series. According to Computer Dealer News (http://www.computerdealernews.com/news/canadian-hardware-vendor-claims-worl…) >>> The Panther computer can also be classified as a workstation and server class notebook with E5-2600 v2 processors, 6 Terabytes of storage, RAID 0/1/5/10 and a one hour battery life. <<< Am I the only one that - at first - thought that was a typo on the battery life??? >>> Mark Bialic, Eurocom president, said incorporating a 12 core, 24 thread processor into a notebook form factor will bring massive performance for on the go. <<< ...as long as you don't "go" more than an hour between AC outlets, I guess! (Don't get me wrong - I'd still like to have one.) -- -Adam Thompson athompso(a)athompso.net

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Fwd: [Board] Linux Format has forked - introducing Linux Voice!
by Adam Thompson 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

FYI. We (i.e. the board) received this recently. I don't know of any Linux Format readers among us, but they used to be a half-decent (albeit expensive) magazine. In case it isn't obvious from the message below, they're looking for money to start publication of their new magazine. -Adam -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Board] Linux Format has forked - introducing Linux Voice! Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:20:50 +0000 From: Andrew Gregory <andrewjamesgregory83(a)googlemail.com> To: info(a)muug.mb.ca Hello Manitoban Unix users, I'm writing to let you know that the editorial team behind Linux Format has quit, and is in the process of launching a rival Linux magazine called Linux Voice. http://www.linuxvoice.com/hello-linux-format-and-tuxradar-readers/ Linux Voice will cover most of the same content as Linux Format, with many of the same writers, but it will be different in three key areas: 1/ We'll give 50% of our profits back to community groups and organisations supporting free software. Admittedly our profits won't be massive at first, but if we achieve even half the success that Linux Format did (and maybe we will after a couple of years) we'll be able to contribute quite a bit of cash. 2/ After no longer than 9 months, we'll relicense old content under the Creative Commons CC-BY-SA licence, so teachers, LUGs, students and anybody else can take, copy and improve upon our work for their own ends. 3/ We won't be owned by a bunch of hedge funds, like Linux Format is (http://www.futureplc.com/investors/major-shareholders/) so we'll be free from corporate interference. Free to do the best job we possibly can. If you could let your members know what we're doing, we'd be most grateful. And if anyone there is a Linux Format reader, please direct them to www.indiegogo.com/projects/linux-voice <http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/linux-voice> so they can see what we're up to. Thanks, Andrew Gregory, Linux Voice -- -Adam Thompson athompso(a)athompso.net Cell: +1 204 291-7950 Fax: +1 204 489-6515

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Some people have way too much time on their hands
by Bradford Vokey 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Apparently it has been around for over 10 years but still... telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl -- ======================================= Bradford C. Vokey ======================================= Treasurer Manitoba Unix User Group =======================================

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Skullspace Cisco routers - last call
by Colin Stanners 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

Of the big pile of Cisco routers donated to Skullspace, there's still a pile of 851s left for anyone who wants to learn IOS. All have been wiped of settings and updated to the latest (or almost) IOS.

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out of inodes
by Trevor Cordes 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

Had a weird issue today where I had 1GB free disk space on / but programs were bombing out with "no more space" errors. I deleted big files to make 1.6GB free. Still the same error! Turns out (thanks Adam) I had run out of inodes. That's pretty wild as I tweak my fs's to ensure that won't happen based on my usage patterns. In the end, it was Opera that had created 2 *million* temp files in its user cache dir! Which leads me to the question: why didn't Linux (or I guess extX) reserve whatever% inodes for root, as it does for actual disk space? Has no one ever thought of this? It seems rather silly that a user program could bring down the whole system by using up all the inodes. I just wanted to check other peoples' thoughts before I contemplate making a bugzilla on this.

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