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Nice site for Linux beginners
by Mel Seder 23 Jun '02

23 Jun '02

http://www.linux.org/lessons/index.cgi I plan to spend a half hour a day on it. ===== "The sooner you make five thousand mistakes, the sooner you will be able to correct them." - Kimon Nicolaides __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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wondering about
by Mel Seder 22 Jun '02

22 Jun '02

Does anyone know of a user interface that brings the action to where your mouse is sitting. Instead of taking me off to the side somewhere and forcing me to move the mouse cursor to the question, let the question come to where my mouse cursor is. Don't force us users to waltz that mouse across our desks all day long. That will become a big boost in productivity I think. ===== "The sooner you make five thousand mistakes, the sooner you will be able to correct them." - Kimon Nicolaides __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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I read an interesting post on the web today
by Mel Seder 20 Jun '02

20 Jun '02

I'm anxiously following the Microsoft battle with the nine states and a litigation feud with BURST (some kind of protocol) people. The posing indicated Microsoft pretended they were going to buy the techology but instead they stole the code and changed windows so that the BURST protocol wouldn't run. Only the new and improved M$ version would execute. I don't know if this is BullShit or not. If it is true and hits the press this would be very restrictive for Microsoft's future at this stage of the Judges deliberations. I hope the Judge will show courage and stand up for the Americans and for the rest of the world too. I think the time is just right for a well built operating system like linux to grow and become even better not even richer. Has anyone seen this story posted by a reliable news site? ===== "The sooner you make five thousand mistakes, the sooner you will be able to correct them." - Kimon Nicolaides __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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re: switchdesk, RedHat, and WMs
by Geek 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

Thanks! I have decided to basically stick with the command line as the GUI under the sad hardware I have on the machine 7.3 runs on is bad. Until I can find a decent video card and maybe find a 15" monitor, I will just stay at the command line and learn from that first. Thanks again for the help though, and I will put this all to good use just as soon as I can get a better video setup. Dwight Wallbridge, Webmaster, Geek, Blogger. Geek's World http://www.geeksworld.net Geek Blog http://www.geekblog.net/ Geek Blog's Forums http://www.geekblog.net/board/ Geek Blog Mail lists http://www.geekblog.net/lists.html > From: "Sean A. Walberg" <sean(a)poochie.ertw.com> > To: roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca > Subject: switchdesk, RedHat, and WMs > > There was a discussion last night about how to switch around window > managers/desktop environments, and which file did what. I just took a > peek at a RH 7.3 box, and came to the following conclusions: > > /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc is run when X is started. > This file first checks for the existance of ~/.Xclients. If it exists, it > is run > Failing that, /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients is run. However, if it doesn't > exist, fvwm2 is tried, followed by twm (not really an issue in Red Hat) > > /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients makes its decision about which desktop to run > based on /etc/sysconfig/desktop. The line > > PREFERRED=GNOME > or > PREFERRED=KDE > > will make the default windowing environment GNOME or KDE respectively. > You could also do "PREFERRED=twm" to have twm the default > > Finally, switchdesk copies the appropriate file from > /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/ into your ~/.Xclients (and doesn't modify > /etc/sysconfig/desktop as I had originally thought, sorry). > > So, in a nutshell, the rough order of things is: > > ~/.Xclients (manual, or by switchdesk) > /etc/sysconfig/desktop (if it exists) > GNOME > KDE > afterstep|windowmaker|mmaker > fvwm95|fvwm|fvwm2 > mwm|lesstif > twm > > Sean > > - -- > Sean A. Walberg <sean(a)ertw.com> http://www.ertw.com > Join the weekly cramsession.com Linux newsletter for news and resources! > Archives and more info at http://www.ertw.com/~sean/newsletter

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You might have missed some messages
by Bill Reid 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

Gilbert pointed out that most of the subscribers to the roundtable list had their mail disabled. We do not know when or why this happened but my suspicion is that it occurred around June 5th. I have re-enabled everyone's email. Please check the archives for missed messages. Sorry for the inconvenience, Bill

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University of Manitoba Garage Sale, June 22 (fwd)
by gedetil＠cs.umanitoba.ca 17 Jun '02

17 Jun '02

I mentioned this garage sale at the last MUUG meeting, but for the sake of those who weren't there or who didn't make a note of it, here are the details... -- Gilbert E. Detillieux E-mail: <gedetil(a)cs.umanitoba.ca> Dept. of Computer Science Web: http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~gedetil/ University of Manitoba Phone: (204)474-8161 Winnipeg, MB, CANADA R3T 2N2 Fax: (204)474-7609 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <3D0DAFE7.5124.2FD23B@localhost> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:46:15 -0500 From: "Randall Kinley" <kinley(a)Ms.UManitoba.CA> To: all-employees(a)Ms.UManitoba.CA Subject: EMEMO: GIANT UNIVERSITY GARAGE SALE You've heard about it. You've waited for it. Saturday, June 22 8:30AM to 2:30PM is the giant University of Manitoba Garage Sale. Well over 2,000 pre-owned items are to be sold at never before seen liquidation prices! Everything must go! Computers, office equipment, desks, chairs, tables, AV and scientific equipment and more. Bring the family. ARAMARK Campus Food Services will be offering hot dogs and drinks, coffee and donuts at garage sale prices throughout the day. Located in the Tache Hall Oak Room (Fort Garry Campus, south side of Dafoe Road directly across from the Quadrangle). YOU'LL FIND US! ************************ Cash and carry. Visa, Mastercard and debit card also accepted. MacCosham Van Lines to offer same day, fee for service moving upon customer request. Net proceeds in support of Campus Beautification and Libraries Acquisitions. Special thanks to ARAMARK Campus Food Services, the Book Store, Parking Services, Physical Plant, Public Affairs, Purchasing Services, Residence Business Affairs and Security Services for assistance. Thanks also to the many departments who have contributed both staff time and materials to the sale. Randall Kinley Executive Assistant to the Associate Vice-President (Administration) 210 Administration Building University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba R3T 2N2 tel: (204) 474-9226 fax: (204) 275-1160 e-mail: R_Kinley(a)UManitoba.CA

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Anxious to learn Judges decision on M$ case in US courts
by Mel Seder 12 Jun '02

12 Jun '02

I wonder what will happen. Maybe Microsoft is even too big for the government to take on toe to toe. ===== "The sooner you make five thousand mistakes, the sooner you will be able to correct them." - Kimon Nicolaides __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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switchdesk, RedHat, and WMs
by Sean A. Walberg 12 Jun '02

12 Jun '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:41:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Sean A. Walberg" <sean(a)poochie.ertw.com> To: roundtable(a)muug.mb.ca Subject: switchdesk, RedHat, and WMs Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206120931530.23666-100000(a)poochie.ertw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There was a discussion last night about how to switch around window managers/desktop environments, and which file did what. I just took a peek at a RH 7.3 box, and came to the following conclusions: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc is run when X is started. This file first checks for the existance of ~/.Xclients. If it exists, it is run Failing that, /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients is run. However, if it doesn't exist, fvwm2 is tried, followed by twm (not really an issue in Red Hat) /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients makes its decision about which desktop to run based on /etc/sysconfig/desktop. The line PREFERRED=GNOME or PREFERRED=KDE will make the default windowing environment GNOME or KDE respectively. You could also do "PREFERRED=twm" to have twm the default Finally, switchdesk copies the appropriate file from /usr/share/apps/switchdesk/ into your ~/.Xclients (and doesn't modify /etc/sysconfig/desktop as I had originally thought, sorry). So, in a nutshell, the rough order of things is: ~/.Xclients (manual, or by switchdesk) /etc/sysconfig/desktop (if it exists) GNOME KDE afterstep|windowmaker|mmaker fvwm95|fvwm|fvwm2 mwm|lesstif twm Sean - -- Sean A. Walberg <sean(a)ertw.com> http://www.ertw.com Join the weekly cramsession.com Linux newsletter for news and resources! Archives and more info at http://www.ertw.com/~sean/newsletter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9B12g/W5I7ZxUFj4RAh5jAJ9oyx9MPAltAffCkVZGIVMXZDD+2gCghgpF 3Ryn7eKEiPYRNfECpBi00c8= =IlM2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Looking for a Calendering & Email solution to run with Unix and/or Linux
by Brenda Ginter 11 Jun '02

11 Jun '02

I am doing some prelimiary research on my own for a calendering and email solution for a large school division. They are currently looking into and Exhange box.... I hope to be able to offer another solution. Can anyone out there offer any suggestions? Thank you in advance for any help offered. Brenda Ginter Computer Support Technician River East School Division No. 9 589 Roch Street Winnipeg, Manitoba R2K 2P7 (204) 667-7130 bginter(a)co.resd.mb.ca

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Intel serves up Manitoba
by Kevin McGregor 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

Found at http://zdnet.com.com/2110-1105-932153.html: Intel is adding one more item to its menu of dishes for wireless cell phone makers. The company confirmed on Tuesday that the code name for the "Internet on a chip" processor it's been working on since last year is "Manitoba" and that it plans to announce the chip in 2002. Manitoba integrates flash memory, a digital signal processor, and an XScale processor core onto a single chip. It will be targeted at cell phone makers developing products for high-speed wireless networks, such as GPRS (General Pack Radio Service) networks. Manitoba will help in the development of phones that let users wirelessly access the Web and play audio files, as well as make basic phone calls. --Richard Shim, Special to ZDNet News [No word yet on why they chose "Manitoba".]

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